Tellulah@tellulahonline

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Spritz, Spritz, Pass Episode 2: Fragrance Elitism, Snobbery, & the paradox of “taste”

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What am I loving this week? The increasing behaviour of buying small as opposed to full size

What is no longer contrary to popular belief in this hobby, is that enthusiasm & knowledge about a hobby is not measured nor proven by the size of a collection. I think this opinion growing so quickly has heavily contributed to the attitude towards over consumption souring.

In response, a different metric has found its way onto the scene in response to large collections, falling out of favour as an indicator of how “into” something you are. Whose collection is of “Good Taste”?

There is quite literally no objective way to measure this, it’s arbitrary. The way some people I have seen (both irl & in online fragrance hobby spaces) look for ways to express the elevated taste they have to garner esteem from their peers (us, the implied observers).

“Good taste”, does not exist as an objective (remember, I said this is all opinions based), but it does exist as a social reality, as we keep participating in it (within 6 months Caroline Basset-Kennedy went the peak of fashion to a niche figure of yesteryear, as the people of now decided such). People who want to be perceived as having “Good Taste” need to figure out what the public’s criteria is, but I think we’ve all been in the perfume game long enough to know that fragrances don’t generally smell the same nose to nose. Taste is determined by what you like, therefore, there cannot be an “elite taste”.

In philosophy, Good Taste exists at precise opposite to vulgarity, otherwise known as “poor taste” or simply “Bad Taste”. If there are superiors there must be inferiors, if only to validate the existence of the former.

This is why (in my opinion) terminology like “cupcake skunk” gained traction.

Its use has grown exponentially, although mostly on the fragrance subreddits, I have officially heard it in real life. I first heard it well over a year ago, maybe at the start of last summer, someone was complaining people were wearing heavy gourmand scents in the summer, but to imply they had Bad Taste for over spraying, wearing certain notes in certain weather, & for wearing “cheap” fragrances, instead of just regarding it as generally unpleasant. This phenomenon was fascinating to say the very least.

At this point, it’s a game of optics. How do we perceive taste?

It is not Bad Taste to overspray a cheap gourmand on the hottest day of summer. However, trapping your peers in an enclosed space in a cloud of an overpowering scent is sure as hell rude to put it mildly. What we’re calling “taste” should not be a shorthand for manners. I can say “they have great taste, but terrible etiquette” without that being an oxymoron.

Another issue I have with “good” or “bad” taste in the fragrance world is using moralizing terms like “good” or “bad” when morality- just like preferences in scent profiles, are just that- preferences. We should avoid moralizing terms when regarding something as nuanced as how we interact with our sense of smell.

There’s a question to be asked here, why did we replace the overconsumption problem with the superior taste problem when both are ultimately vehicles for elitism?

I think a lot of people want to prove they like something for what it is as opposed to wanting it for its cultural capital. Nobody wants to be labelled “just a trend chaser”, & at a point in time where everyone is getting called performative left & right, many of us dig our heels in, going “no, I do actually like this thing- I can prove it!” & come up with new ways to draw a distinction between us (the real devotees) & them (the performative ones). We shouldn’t have to invent terms just to validate our existence in this hobby.

Ultimately, what determines Good Taste? The notes we prefer? The sense we have? Our aversion to dupes? Only buying high-end or expensive? Is YSL’s Libre reflective of better taste than VS Bombshell?

What do we mean when we say Good Taste? Let’s talk!

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  1. Incense_Cat@incensecat

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    With respect to collection size/composition, I think terms like "good taste, classic/classy, quiet luxury" are rooted in racism, sexism, and western/European ideals of beauty/classism/luxury. Your write up is fantastic; inherently subjective preferences (taste) absolutely does not equal tact/manners. What is commonplace/accepted behavior in one part of the world/locally can/often vary significantly elsewhere and between genders. Many eastern Asian countries prefer lighter/fresher fragrances, many western Asian countries prefer heavier/richer scents. America is incredibly individualistic as a society; having personal autonomy is seen as a right, which often comes at the expense of community/social obligations. This is rooted in Manifest Destiny ideals the country was founded on. These attitudes absolutely translate to social practices around what/how much fragrance someone wears and when, how fragrance as a largely collector-based hobby is viewed socially, perceived gender norms, etc.

    1. Tellulah@tellulahonline

      Thank you so much!!! This was initially typed in my Notes app with little regard to WhatScent’s 4k character limit so I did actually mention a specific interaction where I (an East African woman) was in the presence of my boyfriend’s extended family, & was confronted by his uncle criticizing my perfume application. When I started wearing western fragrances this did not happen again (same application). I also found a lot of the “cupcake skunk” disdain to be largely correlated to disdain for newbies. Thank you so much for reading & picking up what I unfortunately was stuck implying instead of explicitly saying due to character limits

    2. Incense_Cat@incensecat

      Replying to @tellulahonline

      Haha, I feel you. I hit the 1k character limit for a comment, so I was trying to be succinct without having to write multiple comments. I enjoy engaging with thought-provoking discussions about the culture of perfume at least as much as shopping for it. I hope you get some engagement with your post, these are important discussions to have!

    3. Incense_Cat@incensecat

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      Replying to @tellulahonline

      Also, I've been getting more northern and east African, and southwest Asian, content creators in my TikTok feed discussing their scent applications/layering. I just know you smell wonderful, and hope you get compliments on whatever you decide to wear, "cupcake skank gourmands" or otherwise. I'd never heard that term, it's so needlessly derogatory.

  2. EmmaBlue@grasshulaskirt

    Hmm not sure about “good taste” in the smell world, since it is so varied and personal. I am a big fan of smaller sizes being normalized. I like the idea of perfumes being more like lipgloss vs only rotating through four.

    1. Tellulah@tellulahonline

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      I mean, this sincerely, did you read what I wrote? The point was that the concept of taste is being used to divide us into legitimate devotees vs “posers” taking the place of what big vs small collections once did. All of this boils down to evading “performatively interested” allegations & instead jacket them on others

    2. EmmaBlue@grasshulaskirt

      Replying to @tellulahonline

      I am not aware of the concept being used, I believe you. The people I follow certainly endorse different lids for different pots, I haven’t ever seen them use divisive language. Is this something you are encountering in advertising / influencers or is it more nuanced?

    3. Tellulah@tellulahonline

      Replying to @grasshulaskirt

      I think most of us have encountered it by now, if at least subtly. Usually what I mean can be found in situations like people having distain for dupes, certain notes being seeing as “juvenile”, or only having cheap bottles being looked down on. It’s really just how pretentiousness is expressed

  3. MagnifiScent@magnifiscent

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    Great thoughtful post! Ps. Never heard the term “cupcake skunk” before now. I did a deep dive into “taste” about 7-8 months ago related to art, fashion, and literature. You’re right: completely subjective. I found that the dominate culture (and that varies by country, region, sub-groups, age…you name it!) “sets the taste standard”. It didn’t surprise me to learn they guard the notion of “taste” from “outsiders”, shifting to new examples of “taste” should the older ones become adopted by the pedestrian hordes. In that way, what’s “tasteful” is this insular concept that they guard and change as needed. Now, I’m not sure if what I learned could be extrapolated to fragrance. Who would the “they” be? What’s the dominate culture in the sub-culture of perfume fanatics? Haven’t thought about it but thanks to your post, I surely will.

    1. Tellulah@tellulahonline

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      The dominant group right now is amorphous as Internet monoculture develops. The best description I can give are the aspiring tastemakers. I’d argue it’s everyone on this app right now. Kind of what the makeup world was 15-ish years ago. The gurus & the top influences are still popping up forming a community that is interpreted by “outsiders” as being experts. That’s why it’s so unstable right now & everyone is still trying to prove their expertise & decide who is “in” & who is “out”. It’s still molten.

  4. EmmaBlue@grasshulaskirt

    Reread this and I understand you were talking beyond perfume, and it makes sense. You can indeed say someone has great taste but terrible etiquette. Which I have never thought about before!

  5. cmewiththemhandz@guerlinaughty

    Love ! John Waters is my hero :)

    1. Tellulah@tellulahonline

      He’s definitely iconic

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